全面啟動Inception 之 真的是神作? - 電影
By Yedda
at 2010-08-18T07:10
at 2010-08-18T07:10
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※ 引述《mival (Mival Fantasia)》之銘言:
: 網誌好讀圖文版:http://mival.pixnet.net/blog/post/31937569
: 它的故事架構很新(是諾蘭他自己的原創劇本)
: 劇情的緊湊度也拿捏得很棒
: 配樂更是一等一的沒話說(Hans Zimmer來的)
: 但我就是覺得整部戲看完很沒有後韻
: 這齣戲的設定是很有趣
: 像是夢裡時間會變快等等的(還有很多)
: 但是這齣戲真的是神作?
: 我一直試圖想要找出這齣戲的衝突點在哪裡
: 結論是
: 全面啟動是很好看
: 但不是神作(沒有後韻啊~)
人可以因著一項特質而給予正面判斷,
也可以因著它給與全盤的否定。
難的不是 "辨識" 該物落在光譜上的座標。
而是 "綜合判斷" 所有的相異光譜,而下的統覺判斷。
若針對你所下的定義,後韻,作為 "神作" 的判準。
那只開啟了密契主義(神祕主義)的對話,在這種層面上的判準,
和 "爽" 無異。即便包裝成 "後韻" ,
也無法掩蓋,你將自我主義(不是個人主義)作為判斷的依據。
不過,即便我們不談這區塊,依舊可以用你的判準做歸依來討論 "神作"。
倘若用你的判準 "後韻" 來當作判准,首當其衝的就是:
分析 "後韻" 這件事情。
你文章中有列舉一些,我在此不一一引上。
但是,說穿了。你所謂的後韻也不過是 "作品的可詮釋義" 的量。
然而,為什麼你在這部片中,得到的後韻這麼少?
當然導演有一部分責任,要拍出一部 "梅爾吉佛遜之英雄本色"
或 "駭客任務" 或 "極光追殺令" 這何其容易?
除了 "後韻" 之外,還有原創性、運鏡、美術(造型、色調...),
太多東西需要考慮。
然而,不考慮太專精也可以,但是至少不能跳過:
演技、運鏡、劇情(設定、情節...等)。這三大元素。
而你,有針對這三元素做分析和批判嗎?
有個觀念要建立的是,你說不出理由而說它好/soso/差,
與說的出 "根據" 而判斷。是大大的不同。
如果一個意見,只能根據到 "個人的統覺" 這層次,
那這個意見沒有討論的空間。即,你說了算,但也就僅止於你的世界有效。
若你能說出,你的 "統覺" 是針對哪些特點,而根據哪些判斷法,
這樣我們才能 "嘗試使用你的觀點來判斷"。
即使我們不必深入羅蘭巴特所說的 "作者已死 " 的理論,
也可以知道,很多事情是需要先建立概念,爾後才能看到。
相反地,很多事情也因著你有概念,導致你沒看到。
好比,基本教義派容易因著看過小說,而說電影比較差。
(這嚴然沒有把電影看成另一個獨立成品,若我們參考美漫的運作方式,
就很容易理解老外對虛構故事的改編忍受度)
影評 / 心得文。差別在哪?
前者寫得好,會讓我們發現這部片子的優點,
注意,是發現,而不是告知。換言之,這是種引導判斷的過程。
而不是 "代替觀眾判斷" 的過程。
甚至,我們可以知道這部片,在與哪些學問對話,
電影史上的哪些影片處理過這些東西、相似、相異處何在?
影評本身就是個獨立的文章,寫得好,與電影本身無關。
就好像風景畫要畫得美,固然要有美風景。電影評論也是一樣。
(特別還有金酸莓式的影評,能不能兼具幽默和嘲諷,這也是一種文風)
心得文呢?
心得文只是種抒發,勉強稱得上是一種記錄,一種感受的記錄。
任何影評都是從心得出發,但它們多半有經過一套策略、戰術性的淬鍊。
而不是用一種 "就這樣阿,沒得討論" 的態度在發表。
寫評論有助人們動腦,也有助你在度咀嚼一部片子。
以上
祝你早日提升到,好片爛片都能看出道理的水準。
--
: 網誌好讀圖文版:http://mival.pixnet.net/blog/post/31937569
: 它的故事架構很新(是諾蘭他自己的原創劇本)
: 劇情的緊湊度也拿捏得很棒
: 配樂更是一等一的沒話說(Hans Zimmer來的)
: 但我就是覺得整部戲看完很沒有後韻
: 這齣戲的設定是很有趣
: 像是夢裡時間會變快等等的(還有很多)
: 但是這齣戲真的是神作?
: 我一直試圖想要找出這齣戲的衝突點在哪裡
: 結論是
: 全面啟動是很好看
: 但不是神作(沒有後韻啊~)
人可以因著一項特質而給予正面判斷,
也可以因著它給與全盤的否定。
難的不是 "辨識" 該物落在光譜上的座標。
而是 "綜合判斷" 所有的相異光譜,而下的統覺判斷。
若針對你所下的定義,後韻,作為 "神作" 的判準。
那只開啟了密契主義(神祕主義)的對話,在這種層面上的判準,
和 "爽" 無異。即便包裝成 "後韻" ,
也無法掩蓋,你將自我主義(不是個人主義)作為判斷的依據。
不過,即便我們不談這區塊,依舊可以用你的判準做歸依來討論 "神作"。
倘若用你的判準 "後韻" 來當作判准,首當其衝的就是:
分析 "後韻" 這件事情。
你文章中有列舉一些,我在此不一一引上。
但是,說穿了。你所謂的後韻也不過是 "作品的可詮釋義" 的量。
然而,為什麼你在這部片中,得到的後韻這麼少?
當然導演有一部分責任,要拍出一部 "梅爾吉佛遜之英雄本色"
或 "駭客任務" 或 "極光追殺令" 這何其容易?
除了 "後韻" 之外,還有原創性、運鏡、美術(造型、色調...),
太多東西需要考慮。
然而,不考慮太專精也可以,但是至少不能跳過:
演技、運鏡、劇情(設定、情節...等)。這三大元素。
而你,有針對這三元素做分析和批判嗎?
有個觀念要建立的是,你說不出理由而說它好/soso/差,
與說的出 "根據" 而判斷。是大大的不同。
如果一個意見,只能根據到 "個人的統覺" 這層次,
那這個意見沒有討論的空間。即,你說了算,但也就僅止於你的世界有效。
若你能說出,你的 "統覺" 是針對哪些特點,而根據哪些判斷法,
這樣我們才能 "嘗試使用你的觀點來判斷"。
即使我們不必深入羅蘭巴特所說的 "作者已死 " 的理論,
也可以知道,很多事情是需要先建立概念,爾後才能看到。
相反地,很多事情也因著你有概念,導致你沒看到。
好比,基本教義派容易因著看過小說,而說電影比較差。
(這嚴然沒有把電影看成另一個獨立成品,若我們參考美漫的運作方式,
就很容易理解老外對虛構故事的改編忍受度)
影評 / 心得文。差別在哪?
前者寫得好,會讓我們發現這部片子的優點,
注意,是發現,而不是告知。換言之,這是種引導判斷的過程。
而不是 "代替觀眾判斷" 的過程。
甚至,我們可以知道這部片,在與哪些學問對話,
電影史上的哪些影片處理過這些東西、相似、相異處何在?
影評本身就是個獨立的文章,寫得好,與電影本身無關。
就好像風景畫要畫得美,固然要有美風景。電影評論也是一樣。
(特別還有金酸莓式的影評,能不能兼具幽默和嘲諷,這也是一種文風)
心得文呢?
心得文只是種抒發,勉強稱得上是一種記錄,一種感受的記錄。
任何影評都是從心得出發,但它們多半有經過一套策略、戰術性的淬鍊。
而不是用一種 "就這樣阿,沒得討論" 的態度在發表。
寫評論有助人們動腦,也有助你在度咀嚼一部片子。
以上
祝你早日提升到,好片爛片都能看出道理的水準。
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